Dr. Suzanne Lie and the Arcturians
Steve Beckow, Host
Good evening, everyone, and welcome to An Hour With an Angel. I’m Steve Beckow, Editor in Chief of the Golden Age of Gaia. And with me today again thankfully sitting in for Linda Dillon who is recovering from shoulder surgery is Suzanne Lie, channel for the Arcturians and a very prolific writer.
That’s what I’ve determined about you I the last two to three weeks, Sue, is that you are prolific. How are you doing?
SL: I’m just taking orders from the Arcturians.
SB: Yes, right.
SL: And that’s really a lot of what we are really being asked to do in this Now is that we are realizing that first off a) I am an Arcturian and the stream of consciousness goes from me into that frequency and back and b) one of the things that is the most important about this incarnation is that in this incarnation I and you too Steve have been able to connect with this higher frequency of myself.
And to gain information from this higher frequency and to dispense that information to others because we are in a very important time in which we have the possible reality of experiencing a whole planetary shift.
SB: Absolutely – the word shift, while accurate, doesn’t convey the magnitude of what’s happening. There are cultures and civilizations from all over this universe and perhaps even others who are watching.
SL: Yes, absolutely.
SB: You know Archangel Michael said something interesting to me in a personal reading. He said, “You’re right there.” I didn’t know what he was talking about. So I said, “What do you mean.” And, he said, “You’re right there on the door step of Ascension.” I put that in small brackets but that was what he was talking about. And he said, “If you are not going to walk over, let me carry you over.” (Laughter)
SL: Well, what a wonderful thing to know that we are supported in such a complete manner.
SB: Yes indeed.
SL: And, part of the reason that we are supported is because we keep that energy going in a circle. So as the energy comes in we dispense it out into the world or in to the planet or somehow share that energy field with others and then what happens is that “energy out is energy back” three-fold.
So, as we get this magnificent high energy of our own higher dimensional expressions that comes into us and then we share it out into our world. It goes out and does its good work and then comes back to us amplified. So then we are replenished and that’s how we can be prolific and how we can do it for so many years.
Because when we are working within this circle of Light that energy that we put out comes back into us. And, if you were to look at an energy field of Love and Light it would be circular in fashion and it replicates itself again and again.
If you were to look at an energy field of fear or separation or anger – that energy goes more in a line because it is bound to that third-dimensional time. It’s a low consciousness, it’s a low energy field, and it’s a low frequency. So just as if you are running along the ground you can do loop-de-loops. But if you are in an airplane you can do loop-de-loops and move around because you are in a grander space – a lighter, higher space.
SB: Yes and I have been experiencing actually a lot of different spaces over the past while and I’m surprised that moving from one space to another that I never had any idea of even what a space was for that matter. Moving from Love to Bliss to Ecstasy, for instance. I believe they are different dimensions entirely but it’s just totally new territory. There is no user’s manual for these spaces.
SB: There’s no user’s manual for Bliss or even Universal Love for that matter.
SB: Even when we find ourselves in the space of it we then begin to learn how to operate in the space – right?
SL: Because we are amongst the beginning of this beautiful cycle of transmutation into a completely higher operating system. So if you look back at the very beginning computers, they had very different operating systems then the new computers that we have now. And it’s the same thing with the human brain. Where the human brain could only experience Alpha or Beta brain waves which are – Beta – your daily life and Alpha – maybe having a nice time, a walk in the park or a great dream – that was all there was. Those were the only channels. Remember we’re dating ourselves here. Remember back in the day Steve, when there were only a couple of TV channels?
SB: I can remember when the TV screen was round. I can remember a lot of things.
SL: Yes exactly, exactly. It was great.
SB: Like a computer.
A: And the early computers were green screens with yellow writing on it. So therefore what is happening is that we are now moving in to higher and higher frequencies of awareness. We are using areas of our brain that have not been used since whatever last time any of us ever had an incarnation when perhaps we Ascended.
A: So we are using much more than that little three percent of our brain and we are learning how to combine our creativity with our daily life. As we do that then we love our daily life more and then our consciousness expands because we are living in Love more often. The more we live in Love, the more we expand our consciousness.
So instead of working so hard, being afraid, being sick, hating life, dragging yourself up, working so hard cycle – we have the cycle of, “Wow, this is a wonderful adventure and I’m so fortunate to be alive in this time and I’m sharing all of this wonderful information and it just gets better and better.” So it cycles up and up instead of down and down.
SB: I remember last night or the night before, writing an article and saying to myself, “I love this. I love writing and I’m having so much fun.” It’s like conducting an orchestra or playing the piano or something. It became tremendously enjoyable and it was made that way by the fact that I was in the state of Bliss. Bliss allowed me to think well, to write well. It’s not a vicious cycle. It’s a heavenly cycle. One feeds on the other and the other feeds on the other.
SL: Yes, and also as we allow ourselves to do what we Love and Love what we do – that’s a self-replicating cycle. But of course we are so third-dimensional that there are still certain actions that we have to take. We have to pay our bills, pay our taxes – whatever.
So there is that challenge of almost like stepping out of that circle into that third-dimension because you don’t know how to bring that circle there. But we’ll get there. It’s just a matter of processing and remembering that we can choose – we can choose our state of consciousness by all the things we’ve used so far. You know, looking at our diets, meditating, praying, having fun, being with people that we love, having a personal mission, fulfilling the mission – whatever that is.
SB: Yes, interesting. Boy I’ll tell you – I was holding this thought for the longest time. I don’t know why I’ve not managed to hold it completely now. I think I’m going to have to let that question go.
SL: It will come back on its own.
SB: Yes, too bad. The original intent on quoting Archangel Michael in the beginning is because he said that we are on the doorstep of Ascension. And I don’t know exactly what that means. I could pretend I did but I don’t know what it means to be on the doorstep of Ascension. But, in your response I wonder if you could talk a little but about ……. Since this seems to be predominately a gradual process. We seem to be unfolding energies, rising in definite steps – stair steps, so to speak. So with that in mind, how are we on the door step of Ascension?
A: Well it used to be that people called doorsteps thresholds. So we will look at the threshold/doorstep as the same. And what it means to be on the threshold of Ascension. Initially, very often – now we cannot answer this question for everybody because everybody is going to be perceiving this through their own experience. But there is a feeling that occurs as moving on to feeling as if one is on this doorstep, this threshold of Ascension.
And that feeling is one of connection that there is a connection with a higher frequency of yourself and also a connection with the Earth. When you have a connection with the Earth, not only will you be able to ground that energy because when one is bringing in the high frequencies of higher dimensional beings – that circuitry would be very difficult on the physical body if it were not grounding itself on a regular basis.
And part of that grounding is being in nature and interacting with the planet. And another part of that grounding is to share it with others. When you share that energy field with others, you are carrying it all within yourself. You are allowing yourself to be an open portal. So when these blissful energy fields that you were speaking of enter in to the physical body, instead of trying to be constrained into the physical body, they go all the way through the body and into the very core of the planet because it’s a very high frequency and it needs to be grounded sufficiently.
If you are ironing, you need two grounding cords but if you are going to do one of those movie lights you need to have the third grounding cord. So the grounding cord is very important. It’s important for two reasons. First, it’s important to ground yourself because the higher frequencies of Light are too abrasive to your third-dimensional vessel. Second, you ground it because you move out of one’s own personal needs of I am a person and I am sending into I am a member of a beautiful planet and not only are the people of this planet Ascending but the Planet itself is Ascending.
Then you move from a personal consciousness to a shared consciousness all the way to a planetary consciousness. And when you are holding that extended consciousness, when one is holding that extended consciousness – then they can pull in even more bliss. They can pull in even more information, more directions, and more writings. They can pull through these messages because they have adapted to their own multi-dimensional expression of self. They have moved beyond just being one person to being one with all of the Planet.
SB: I have used your exercise of grounding to Gaia and I notice that very consciously and with a lot of determination you can imagine a little cord I can imagine myself having an energy that is quite wide and sending it right down to the heart of Gaia and then fastening it there.
What I found is that previously when I was in bliss I would be flying around the rafters and I’d be all over the place and happy and joyful. But I wasn’t able to buy bread and be here. When I anchored as you suggested to Gaia, in that manner and came up to the surface again, I felt substantial and blissful.
I didn’t lose out on being blissful. I was blissful. And I also felt substantial and really stable. So I wanted to give you that feedback. So I really benefited from that exercise. I can see now how one would want to anchor to the core of Gaia.
A: Yes, it does really make a difference for your personal self because then your personal self expands into your planetary self and as you expand into your planetary self you are getting feedback from everything around you. So you are already in the experience of having that inter-dimensional relationship with this higher being. Then as you ground it into the planet then you ground that energy field so that you have become this open portal so this energy can pass and be shared with Gaia.
Then as it is shared with Gaia it is unconditional Love and higher frequencies of consciousness and that goes in to the body of Gaia and begins to heal the body of Gaia. So as each person opens this portal through themselves and into the core of the Planet then they are assisting to heal from the core of the planet up into the surface of the planet all of that damage that humanity has done to Planet Earth.
SB: How significant is one person’s efforts?
A: Well, what happens with one person’s efforts is when that one person takes this energy and grounds it into the core of the planet then the planet moves that energy field up to the surface of the entire planet. So when one person grounds this higher entire energy field in the core of the planet, that grounding, that energy field is shared with the entire planet all over the world.
Once a person has moved beyond their third/fourth-dimensional consciousness or at least beyond their third and lower fourth -dimensional consciousness in which it is a consciousness of separation, once one move’s into the higher fourth dimension and fifth-dimension and the higher realms of nirvana etc., then what occurs is that they are no longer separate. It is why many monks don’t want to step on a bug or harm an animal or harm a plant because they do not see that separation within themselves and these other expressions of Gaia’s life force.
So as we the Arcturians perceive what is occurring, as we perceive and all of the other higher beings who are encircling beautiful Gaia what we are seeing is that this Light is going into the core of the Planet from all different directions. And then all these different directions intermingle and intertwine within themselves to instead of being sent from one person, sent from all the people.
Then this integrated energy field that we sent down one person at a time which has now become integrated goes up to the surface of Gaia fully integrated so that all of the beings, all over the Planet are all within this one energy field.
And we say beings other than just humans because there are many beings other beings other than human such as the cetaceans – the dolphins and the whales – who are so important to the oceans and the water element and the birds and the insects that are so important for the air element and all of the different beings are moving into this Unity Consciousness where there is no hierarchy of needs.
There is no “this being is better than that being whose better than that being whose better than that child who is better than that bug.” There is no better than. Everything is within the oneness of Unconditional Love.
It is as you were saying and as we were saying is that it moves out of the either/or. What is occurring more and more with our grounded ones is that they are beginning to bring their higher dimensional perceptions on line. And Suzille and I am sure you have heard from many people who are perceiving star ships who are perceiving lights in the sky, who are perceiving other people’s auras.
You look at a person and know what part is healthy and what part is not health. They are perceiving exactly when the flower needs to be watered, when their pet is hungry – but not in that way that they would do the research and find out. It is just there. They just feel it in their bodies and/or see it with their clairvoyance – their higher seeing, or hear it with their clairaudience – their higher hearing.
SB: So all this is going on. These capabilities are gradually unfolding and it’s exclusive because of the other [inaudible] and one could say that it’s exclusively happening because of the energies being directed to us.
A: We wouldn’t say that anything is exclusive because exclusive is a very third-dimensional term. We think in terms of the Now of the One. And we don’t see that separation because part of the reason why the higher Light is able to move in to the energy field of the planet is because more and more people have been expanding their consciousness and communicating with others and talking about higher Light and telling them that this is good and don’t be afraid. You’re going to be feeling some things in your body, you’re going to be having some changes in your life. This is good, this is what you want.
So this information that people are getting is helping them to be excited instead of fearful. And if they were fearful then they would not be able to perceive the energy fields because their consciousness would drop. And the consciousness and perceptions are calibrated. If you are in a very low state of consciousness you will just only be able to look down and see how will I survive this day? But if you are in a very high state of consciousness then you just listen and know that you will be guided in every moment and you do not have to worry about survival because you are Life living.
And you and your personal survival isn’t nearly as important as the fulfillment of the reason why you took a component of your huge multi-dimensional self and placed it into the Earth vessel that you are currently wearing.
SB: Thank you for that, very well said.
Coming back to the threshold of Ascension there are two enlightenment experiences associated with the Ascension. One is when one enters the seventh chakra which is the completion of the kundalini here and that’s called Brahmajnana. The second is when it circles back to the heart and permanently opens the heart which is Sahaja Samadhi – that’s liberation. That’s the end of the Ascension process.
What do we call this part we are in now or how do we think about this part we are in now – the threshold of Ascension? My understanding is that it doesn’t involve enlightenment.
A: Well many of these terms – Ascension, Enlightenment are terms that have accumulated a great deal of third-dimensional meanings so you could talk about Enlightenment to five different people from five different paths, five different religions and they would probably see it in five different ways.
We, the members of the Galactic family and the Angelic family do not perceive this as an either/or experience or that there is a this or a that. What we perceive is this beautiful dance of potential that is intertwining and inter-loving and growing. And we see that this beautiful potential in many cases is actually cycling around that which they once feared, that which they once lived in that process of power over others and are sharing so much of this beautiful energy that old programming of, “Oh, I need to take over” is beginning to fall away.
A: And as more and more of that occurs, then the separation between and the have and have-nots and the – oh so good and the oh so bad – all of those third-dimensional rules of reality just fade from the consciousness from the ones who are within this process of expanding their perceptions.
SB: Yes, I actually do know that’s true and I can speak from experience on that. It’s not so much that they fade it’s that there is no room for them. I don’t know how to say it.
A: They don’t exist.
SB: Well they do but they no longer function for me.
A: Yes they do personally to other people who are within that frequency of consciousness and very few people, unless you live on an ashram or something – it’s very difficult to maintain that 24/7.
So what is happening with many people is that they will have these wonderful moments of higher dimensional compassion and love and forgiveness and understanding and opening of their heart and opening of their third eye and having these beautiful experiences and even beginning to feel the Light Body coming up their kundalini and ready to burst forth. Then it kind of like fades back in.
SB: Oh no.
A: Then a little voice says, “Not now – wait. Wait until you can all do it within the Now of the One.”
A: For in the ancient past it was impossible that all of humanity would be able to do this – that Gaia could be able to experience that gift and thereby be able to ignite her own fifth-dimensional expression so that individuals would have this experience and individuals would have chelas and the chelas would take over after their master returned to the higher dimensions and every time it got a little more distorted from what the chela said. Then down the road it was not very much even recognizable.
That is because these feelings, these experiences need to be experienced within one’s self. Because your individuality is a very important gift because the planet has great diversity and each person has great diversity. So, each individual one of you is going to experience this process in a slightly different fashion. Then all the other beings – humans, animals, plants that resonate to that particular fashion will join within that energy field.
And then as all of these energy fields expand because there is no time, there is no separation. It’s not that it’s this path, this path or this path as it has become on the third-dimension. All the paths overlap and intertwine and move into a dance of One.
SB: What they share of course is that every one of the paths is a divine quality and when the Divine Quality is good as the next or realizing God – so they all converge.
A: Yes and there are humans from different languages, from different traditions and they will use a very different vocabulary for the same thing.
SB: And you said for instance many have used different vocabularies for the same event and it’s very difficult to figure out. Where we are, we’re going through the first mass physical Ascension in the Universe perhaps. But we are also trying to figure out if you can imagine us on a tour and you’re the tour guide and try to figure out what’s up ahead. Is it just going to be more gradual unfolding and a rising or any advance coming up – any way markers so to speak?
A: Oh there are many, many events coming up – however they will come up within a frequency range and only those whose consciousness is calibrated to that frequency range will be able to consciously perceive those events. However those who cannot consciously perceive the events might very well begin to have unusual dreams or somehow find out that they are somehow attracted to a certain writing that a person was talking about a weird thing that happened to them.
So even if they do not consciously perceive what is occurring within their reality it can if they are open minded, activate this curiosity of – “I always thought that was crazy stuff. You know, it’s kind of interesting to me now.”
SB: Is this going to be simply a gradual unfolding of higher and higher vibrations within ourselves, states of being or is there a process that isn’t so gradual going on relative to our Ascension?
A: Well, what we have to say with that is that each person will chose the manner in which is most comfortable for them. So whereas some people may need and desire their process to be slower, their perceptual level will remain at a lower frequency and they will gradually move up that frequency scale until they move into the fifth-dimensional New Earth etc. Whereas others might be ready and they want to go right away into that higher frequency.
So they will experience that much sooner. And most of them will also maintain a physical body so that they can share what is going on with them and assist others who may need more time to move out of that third-dimensional time-bound reality and move into this Nowness.
But the fifth-dimension is not ruled by time it all occurs within the Now. And the fourth dimension has a much faster time then third dimension. So one can go up for what appears to be a five-minute break to their third-dimensional body and spend what appears to their self as being within that Now for a very joyous and expanded experience and then come back down and it’s five minutes later on the physical clock.
SB: What about the Light body. We talked about Ascension as if it was simply a matter of our choices and the way we are oriented towards the energies etc. etc., but there’s also the Light body coming on line and the 97% percent junk DNA so to speak. What is happening there with people on the Planet.
A: Well, what is happening with the Light body experience is that more and more people especially those who meditate on a regular basis are beginning to have those initial experiences of Light Body. And the actual Light Body is within yourself, within your spinal cord, within that kundalini energy.
The kundalini energy is housed at the base of the spine and often known as the sleeping serpent and as that serpent, as that kundalini energy begins to rise it is much like a trampoline. You go up a little bit then you go up higher then you go down then up higher then back down – then each person is – the ones that are aware actually choosing just how far up they wish their kundalini to go because once the kundalini goes all the way through to reach your crown then you’re in Light body so you no longer on the third-dimensional Earth – well the transmuting Earth.
Many might say, “Well, great. I’m out of there.” But the thing is that those that remember their self, those that remember their lives on the ship, those that remember being with the higher beings, those that remember their higher expressions of self – maybe even back to Source, they know that that is always them. That has always been them. They are never going to lose that. They are on a mission. And their mission is for them to just Ascend because they are already those frequencies.
Their mission is that they went to assist with the Ascension of an entire planet. So they are limiting that return to Light Body because in order to adhere to and experience that third/fourth-dimensional planet, they need to maintain their third/fourth-dimensional space ship, so to speak.
SB: I realize that when you say certain things like “initial experience of Light Body, “or you used a similar phrase just a few seconds ago. I don’t know what you mean by that. What is the initial experience of Light Body?
A: Well the initial experience of Light Body is a third-dimensional term because it’s a time-bound term. But it is the first time that one can remember how that experience felt in their body.
SB: With everyday consciousness?
SL: Yes, now this is Sue. There is a certain kind of meditation that I was doing that I stopped doing because when I did that meditation, my Light Body started rising up and I’m not done yet.
SL: So I stopped doing that meditation. But I meant initial that was the first time that I had that experience. And I had that experience several times before I realized how very powerful it was and I decided, “Okay, what do I want to do with this energy field?” So I said no and that I wanted to stay. Maybe I wouldn’t have been able to flash all the way into Light body. I wasn’t ready to take that risk so to speak even though it’s a beautiful risk because I feel that I have not yet completed my mission.
SB: So you were guided to see the situation that way.
SB: That happened several times so I do know what you are talking about.
SL: So you understand what I am saying.
SB: Oh yes.
SL: Yes, it’s like the portal opens and you know you can go through and you say well I think I can do more. I’m ready to stay. And, that’s an invitation and congratulations we’re happy that you can do that. Do you want to come home? And you’ll say, “Yes, but we think we can do more and we would like to stay and do more.”
SB: Another cut of that is if I were to go into some higher spaces I might not be able to write in the same way that I do now. And so I shy away from going into certain spaces so I can continue to share the same frame of reference so to speak.
SL: Yes, well luckily I was very esoteric. Well I moved. I started off grounded and got more and more esoteric and now I’m way out there and some feel that I’m way out there so esoteric is fine. But for me it’s more about the physical body and there are side effects.
SB: Side effects of what?
SL: There are side effects of expanding our energy field to such a high frequency and one of the side effects that I discovered is that the third/fourth dimensions are ruled by time and we have more and more fifth dimensional and beyond experiences we start losing our connection to time. And we start living in the Now which is wonderful but if we don’t write down every single thing or really pay attention to what people say – it’s gone.
SB: Oh, yes. I definitely know that. Something else that’s been happening this last week that I find remarkable is the number of people who have told me that they are going through absolute, utter hell in the sense that past lives are coming up, the wicked deeds they may have done are coming up, all kinds of images of awful things. And that happened to me too about two days ago. For about a twenty-four hour period I suddenly found myself with all of these awful thoughts wondering where this was all coming from.
SB: You say that as if you know what’s happening.
SL: It’s like clearing out the cellar. We’re getting ready to move and we’ve been putting a bunch of junk in that cellar for a long time. I’ll deal with that later, I’ll deal with that later. Now, we are selling the house and we can’t sell the house with all the junk in the cellar. We’ve got to go through the cellar. I think that what a lot of us are deciding is, “You know what? When I transmute into Light body I’m just going to make sure I transmute the cellar too.” That’s cellar not as in the house but underneath.
SB: So we’re at the threshold of Ascension, at the doorstep of Ascension. I still think that a lot of people will expect to Ascend and immediately be able to change their house or fly away to CCC or something and magnificent vistas will open up. But I sense that that is not necessarily the case. It’s simply a change of consciousness in the beginning.
A: Because you are moving out of time, the well-known sequence of events from your third/fourth-dimensional life no longer exists. There’s no longer a sequence of events and there are no longer separations. Because you can see all of your aura and the aura of all life – nothing is separate.
So if one were to try to, “I’m out of here.” That would lower your consciousness because you just said “I” instead of “We”. So then you’re back down out of that process. So one of those processes is within this whole Ascension is that we need to realize is that we are already multi-dimensional and already exist in higher frequencies.
We did not come for our personal gain. That lowers our consciousness a great deal. We came to assist the Planet and as long as we are thinking in terms of assisting the planet we have this wonderful protection of this huge mass. We are very grounded. We are grounded within this planet and we are united with all of these other beings all over the planet that resonate to our frequency.
Now, a television set is about a frequency. Each channel is a different frequency. So you are not going to watch all of those frequencies at once on your television set. You’re going to pick this frequency or that frequency – channel 2, channel 5, channel 8 or whatever.
So these realities at first there’s this shifting from the third-dimensional sequential time-bound thinking into the multi-dimensional unity of the Now of the One. Now this is the biggest transition. To some it would be a great challenge, to others it will feel like, “Oh great now I can be like I’ve tried not to be all the time.”
But the most important thing is that Unity Consciousness is very vital for this Nowness for there are some who are resisting this shift and they are purposefully creating dramas, creating hardships, creating events that create fear because a) they are hungry and like to eat fear, they live off of fear and b) they use fear to control.
So those who are Ascending – one of the most important things that you will need to remember is that you will not allow yourself to fall into fear. And when fear comes to you just say, “I refuse to participate in this reality and I send you unconditional Love and Violet Fire.”
So instead of being concerned of any possibility of victimization to what this fearful event person might incur upon you, you stand firm within your oneness and transmute the situation and Love the person unconditionally. And it is that unconditional Love and the ability to transmute that allows you to participate with the others who are also working for the highest school of the entire planet.
SB: Unfortunately we are running out of time so we’ll have to bring this discussion to a close. I love what you said about the beautiful dance of potential. This is my last question. You are seeing this much different than the way we are seeing it obviously. What do you see when you look at the planet from your ships and your vantage point? What do you see now?
A: Well just as humans see what they choose to look at we see what we choose to look at initially. Because the first thing that we want to do is to go into the hearts and minds of all of our dear grounded ones who have chosen to take a physical body to assist with planetary Ascension. And we perceive these beings as many dots of Light that are wavering into higher dots and smaller dots and higher dots. And when the dots get bigger then they merge into other dots and become even bigger.
Now we also see that there is an underground. It’s almost like looking through a very clear ocean. These Lights are much like the Lights that happen when the sun glistens off the surface of the water. Then underneath the water at the bottom of the pond we see that which is stuck into the density and the muck and we are assisting our ones who are the sparks of Light above the water to send down our gift we give to them – to send that down into those who are still trapped in that muck, in that illusion of darkness in that illusion of fear. For darkness is a polarity and fear is a polarity and when they return to their fifth-dimensional self they will exist within the Now of the One.
SB: Very nice. Thank you very much for coming here today. Is there any last comment that you want to make before we leave?
A: Thank you very much for having us.
SB: Thank you, I’ll look forward to our next discussion.
A: Thank you.
SB: Thank you and farewell.